What made you sad today?

[Nutty_ZA]

That's not nice... I threw my back out a couple of months ago and I was in pain for nearly a month....

I find the only thing that helps my pain is Aspirin... paracetamol is useless

[Waldo]

Lots of bad backs around - mine included! Just bending over to straighten the sheets on the bed yesterday and it went PING (NO silly comments please! ) - still in pain today. Have been taking Nurofen express with no appreciable results, will try taking them with paracetomol tonight and see if that works

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Nutty_ZA

That's not nice... I threw my back out a couple of months ago and I was in pain for nearly a month....

I find the only thing that helps my pain is Aspirin... paracetamol is useless

Originally Posted by Waldo

Have been taking Nurofen express with no appreciable results, will try taking them with paracetomol tonight and see if that works

Yeah it's not good is it

Im lucky though in that its only 5/10 pain. It's not that 7+ pain that takes your breath away

I'm going to try a heat pack and asprin tonight

Mike...

[Waldo]

Oh dear - we do sound like a load of old crocks this week!!

[Nutty_ZA]

HOw's your back now Mike? Did the Heat Pack and Apsrin work?

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Waldo

Oh dear - we do sound like a load of old crocks this week!!

I know

Originally Posted by Nutty_ZA

HOw's your back now Mike? Did the Heat Pack and Apsrin work?

Erm.... I didnt try it. A vodka and coke did the trick

Its killing me again today though

Mike...

[Mike]

My 15 year old Son collapsed this morning and was found about an hour later by his Mum.

He was taken to hospital where they are running loads of tests and keeping him in for observation. They suspect that he may have had a TIA

Life sure holds a lot of nasty surprises

Mike...

[Nutty_ZA]

Wow Mike,
That is terrible news...
You must be really worried

I wish your Son a speedy recovery...

[Nutty_ZA]

One of our cats (we had 2) got attacked by dogs on Tuesday Afternoon... It appeared to be okay at first then on Tuesday night it started curling up in a ball in our Bath, not eating and hardly moving... I took it to the vet first thing on Wednesday morning, and he diagnosed it as Having SIRS (see below)... sadly, it passed away last night

TRAUMA AND SIRS

The multiple trauma patients as an example of SIRS, represent one of the most important challenges in veterinary practice. All the environmental aspects of these events make it imperative to have an accurate clinic semiologic system to assess these cases.

It is important to remember that the clinical effects observed in these patients are only the expression of local inflammatory phenomena. Due to the extent of the injury and the organic response, it turns to be general involving other systems and organs, being so severe as to result in death.

It has to be clear that SIRS does not occur without a pre-existing injury or insult. Any kind of organic damage will prompt the release of the previous mediators in order to produce a proinflammatory state.
All together assemble a response that is designed to limit new damage and to ameliorate any damage that has already been done. To ensure that the effect of these proinflammatory mediators does not become harmful, the body launches a compensatory anti-inflammatory response.

This state is only the local reaction in the site of injury or infection.
If the original insult is too severe, the regulation of the inflammatory response is lost a massive reaction occurs. This reaction is usually proinflammatory producing the clinical findings of SIRS: hypotension, tachypnea, tachycardia, increased microvascular permeability, ischemia, reperfusion injury, and vasodilatation.

Often, the result is the developing of a profound shock that further compromises blood flow to vital organs. Organ dysfunction and systemic failure can result if nothing is dome to prevent it.

Sometimes the compensatory anti-inflammatory mechanisms are overwhelmed and the patient can develop immune suppression, that has been describes as "immune paralysis" or as a "window of immunodeficiency".

It can be considered as compensatory anti-inflammatory response syndrome (CARS), these syndrome explains the increased susceptibility to infection of trauma patients. Therefore MARS or mixed antagonistic response syndrome includes SIRS and CARS components.
The final stage of MODS (multiple organ dysfunction syndrome) is reached when the patient develops immunologic dissonance. In these patients organ dysfunction results from an ongoing inflammation, and it will end in death unless the inflammation can be down regulated.

Organ failure occurs sequentially: first the lungs and then the liver, gastrointestinal tract and then the kidneys. The underlying proinflammatory response affects all the organs simultaneously.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Nutty_ZA

Wow Mike,
That is terrible news...
You must be really worried

I wish your Son a speedy recovery...

Yeah Im still worried as nothing is yet confirmed. We are waiting for lab results. My Son is in good spirit though as Liverpool won 4 - 1 lastnight

Im off to see him in a bit

Originally Posted by Nutty_ZA

diagnosed it as Having SIRS (see below)... sadly, it passed away last night
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Thats really sad, sorry to hear that

Mike...